Radio Show Archive – September 2026

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Esbjorn shares new information about his great-grandfather in British Columbia, including an obituary describing him as a well-known plasterer in the Terrace area whose fireplaces and decorative work were remembered throughout the community. The conversation then turns to Susan’s continuing recovery from her collarbone injury. She describes Healing Touch sessions, Breath work, and her interpretation that old patterns involving safety, wellbeing, and the masculine are being released. She also explains choosing not to work with a practitioner whose fear about her decision not to have surgery felt incompatible with the support she wanted. These descriptions of injury, energy, physiology, and healing represent Susan’s and Ryce’s experiential framework rather than established medical conclusions.

Susan then reviews the Power Person Dynamic for newcomers. She describes three necessary conditions: the Power Person has greater power, is operating from hostility or fear rather than conscious Love, and the child experiences a survival threat. Ryce adds that the child absorbs not only the Power Person’s energy but the entire emotional environment. Under low stress, the adult repeats behaviors once used to get along with the Power Person; under medium stress, behaviors used to survive the Power Person appear; and under high stress, the person may reproduce the Power Person’s own behavior. The workbook is presented as a way to expose and heal these unconscious patterns.

Step Nine of the Power Person Workbook introduces one of the show’s central teachings: “forgive as to.” Ryce explains that Y’Shua’s forgiveness instruction is not to forgive another person for supposedly causing one’s internal pain. Rather, if someone’s behavior resonates fear, rage, grief, or another pattern, the person applies forgiveness as to what arose internally. The external person or circumstance becomes the trigger revealing material available for healing. Ryce emphasizes that one forgives as to the fear, hostility, or other internal energy, allowing oneself to return to active present Love and then relate more clearly to the other person.

The discussion then moves into Breath, the unconscious, and physiology. Ryce describes the cellular structure as a kind of database and suggests directing connected Rakhma Breath toward areas of tension until they soften. Susan expands on her current understanding of Rukha d’Qudsha as the Holy Breath who accesses unconscious material when given entry through Breath, liberates restricted mind energy, and restores awareness of Truth. The body is described as a learning device and expression of mind rather than an independent causal agent. Susan also explains how shifting from the label “pain” to simply observing sensation allowed her to stay present and move through deeper emotional material rather than becoming organized around the mental construct of pain.

Susan then identifies thought disorders uncovered through the workbook: men are dangerous, people cannot be trusted, she cannot safely be herself, money is evil, life does not work out for her, her value depends on being useful, and her wants and needs do not matter. She traces many of these patterns to childhood experiences and family messages. Rather than continuing to live as a chameleon or people-pleaser, she describes developing agency, sovereignty, secure relationship with herself, and greater awareness of her own needs. The central corrective becomes that worth and Love are inherent in Being rather than earned through approval, performance, usefulness, or compliance.

Step Ten explores the stories a child creates to make Power Person messages appear true. Susan recognizes appeasement, people-pleasing, control, rage, intimidation, guardedness, and resistance to vulnerability. Ryce offers the MindShifter, “I love it when I get to rely on others for support and healing,” addressing Susan’s tendency to withdraw when vulnerable. He also characterizes hostility as a form of mental illness because people commonly behave in hostility in ways they later regret. Susan recognizes impatience and rage when events do not go her way as remaining expressions of that pattern and identifies them as further material for forgiveness. The show closes with participants reflecting on their own wants, needs, vulnerability, and newly emerging awareness through the Power Person work.

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Notes From Chatroom:

michael ryce: “SuperWorkSheet!” https://whyagain.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Power-Person-Pseudo-Solution-Worksheet-05032025.pdf

Jeanie: Power Person dynamics https://whyagain.org/power-person-dynamics/

Vienna: As we had the breathing meditation, I had a tight sensation behind my left knee and  in the right calf (about the size of a quarter). It has dissipated significantly. Could you say a bit about that process of dissipation and any further steps of “filling” that space.

Jeanie: Alchemy of healing website has Louise Hay “Causes of Symptoms” https://alchemyofhealing.com/archives/336

And “Messages from the Body: Their Psychological Meaning” Author: Michael J. Lincoln, Ph.D.

Vienna: I relate to some aspects of your story. I have also known friends who were highly sensitive AND knew what they wanted. That has always amazed me. I am just starting to get consciously acquainted with my wants and needs.

MindShifter: “I love it when I get to rely on others for support and healing.”

REVELATIONS FROM THE PULSES/RAKHMA BREATH:
What it is that we all need to be about processing through…
ENERGY SET, BY GENERATIONS IN BONE, TAKES TIME TO RELEASE, TIME TO HEAL, AND/OR IT TAKES GRAND WILLINGNESS.
If you do not know what I mean, by “SET IN BONE,” just pay attention to your thoughts the next time you clench your jaw… How many clenched … In 30 generations… In 2.14 billion of my/your ancestors… Are you open and willing to embrace all of that has been “Locked in bone?”
Yes I am willing to open every shuttered jaw in my bloodline so that all the pathways of the Power of God’s Truly All – Embracing Love/Presence are opened in me… I realize I can only rely on that! For my miniscule self, that thinks it has power – power to handle every shuttered jaw in just my bloodline?? I jest. Now I understand why I am wholly reliant on you… Open

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Susan also discusses her continuing recovery from her collarbone injury and interprets the process through Breath, mind energy, masculine-feminine integration, and generational healing. She describes moving from forcing and demanding toward “resting into life,” with the inner masculine becoming supportive and the feminine increasingly able to receive. Ryce acknowledges the willingness to look beneath the immediate physical experience and returns the group to Step 11 of the detailed Power Person Workbook: identifying the stories a child created to make Power Person messages appear true. Susan names patterns including “I am unlovable,” “I deserve what I get,” “I am alone,” “it is unsafe to trust,” “I am trapped,” “I can only rely on myself,” and “if I make sure you are okay, perhaps I will be okay.” She recognizes people-pleasing and fawning as survival strategies and begins uncoupling herself from responsibility for other people’s feelings, behavior, and development while strengthening agency and sovereignty. Her descriptions of physical healing, energy, and generational physiology reflect the participants’ experiential framework rather than established medical conclusions.

The discussion expands into attachment and connection. Susan references Gordon Neufeld’s developmental work, while Ryce distinguishes attachment from the deeper condition of connection. His emphasis is on creating safe space in which a Human Being can fully incarnate and experience itself as Love while remaining connected with others without being controlled by attachment. Breath is described as the natural foundation for this connection. Susan reframes “remembering” as becoming a member once again of the One Life, and the group explores trust, receiving, vulnerability, and the possibility of moving beyond survival-based relationship patterns.

Kerry’s discussion of an estranged brother leads into family systems, ancestral patterns, Another Self, family constellations, and the possibility of maintaining Love without attachment or physical proximity. The conversation then turns toward what participants call non-local energy. Ryce uses tuning forks, radio frequencies, the work he attributes to Marcel Vogel and the Delaware camera, and resonance as metaphors and evidence within his teaching model for how thought and energetic patterns influence a larger field. He connects this with the Aramaic meaning of “neighbor” as anyone held in thought and with Rakhma as the inner filter that keeps intentions aligned with Love. These interpretations of quantum physics, non-local healing, thought transmission, and observer effects are presented as claims and interpretations made during the show rather than independently established scientific conclusions.

The final portion develops the distinction between reality and actuality. Ryce says Carbon-Based Memory continually produces personal realities from the past, while true creation and Revelation occur only in the Present. The objective of the work is therefore to move from replicated past frequencies into direct relationship with actuality. Participants connect this with A Course in Miracles, the Holy Breath, the made-up world versus the created world, and the need to become “out of our minds”—out of the automatic decision system that assumes past information is Truth. Breath becomes the marker for Presence. In that state, Revelation can enter rather than the mind merely recycling what it already knows. Ryce summarizes the human design as conscious creation from Love rather than unconscious replication from hostility, fear, and Carbon-Based Memory.

From chatroom:

michael ryce: REVELATIONS FROM THE PULSES/RAKHMA BREATH: “Without access to Truth, the actuality of what is happening in a given moment, it is impossible to access relationship with God. Truth, and Love, the Scriptures tell us is one of the names of God! Stuck in beliefs, mental constructs and delusions about what appears to be happening, there is no access to true change or real, permanent, healing.”

Jackie: Energy is not local? Please elaborate. More specific question is , the energy healing online versus in person. I am very sensitive to energy physically close. Trying to understand online without the physical.

Jeanie: DeLaWarr camera  http://marcelvogel.org/#camera

Watch the Netflix series “Another Self”

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The central discussion then returns to Susan’s healing process after her collarbone injury. She describes an intensely painful night after removing her sling and interprets much of the experience as old mind energy being released through the body. Ryce affirms the value of staying connected to Breath while also making an important distinction: pain may contain old emotional material, but it can also be a present physiological warning requiring attention. He encourages listening closely to the body, supporting the injured area, and allowing appropriate pain relief when needed rather than assuming that enduring severe pain is inherently part of healing. Participants also discuss bone alignment, the sling, occupational healing considerations, comfrey, and other herbal approaches. These medical, energetic, herbal, and past-life interpretations are presented as participants’ personal and historical perspectives rather than established medical guidance.

Ryce reframes Susan’s experience as an opportunity to deepen friendship with the Breath. He says that when Breath begins exposing uncomfortable material, people often tighten, resist, or retreat. The deeper practice is to remain present long enough for the Breath to become a trusted companion rather than something associated with difficulty. Susan recognizes another pattern underneath the physical pain: a long-standing belief that healing, growth, or worth may require suffering. The group explores how enduring pain alone can itself become an identity or pseudo-solution, particularly when linked with martyrdom. Ryce offers a corrective MindShifter: “The deepening of my connection with the Breath of God returns me Home.” Worthiness, he emphasizes, comes from Being created and Breathed by God rather than from suffering enough to deserve value.

The final portion becomes an extended group Breath process. Susan locates a constricted area around the Sacred Heart, clavicle, right side of the body, and head. Ryce guides her to bring a consciously connected Rakhma Breath into the area while recalling the felt presence of Love and allowing whatever is ready to become conscious to arise. Imagery of a dead baby, loss of innocence, ancestral suffering, screaming, martyrdom, and “being born into death” surfaces during the process. Ryce responds by reframing the work as being “born into Life” and encourages release of any belief that suffering produces salvation, worth, or Homecoming.

As the breathing continues, Susan reports sensations of pulsing, release, numbness, pressure, and opening through the right hemisphere, jaw, voice box, hip, and other areas. Ryce and the group continue to hold a field of Breath and Love while encouraging her to release old holding patterns and remain attentive to what the body communicates. The show closes with Susan reporting a significant release and deciding to continue with a full StillPoint session. Throughout the process, the underlying teaching remains consistent: Breath, Presence, and willingness allow unconscious material to become conscious, while the movement from suffering, resistance, and old identity into Love restores awareness of Being.

From chatroom:

Esbjorn (esa): Bone knit, also known as comfrey, is a traditional herbal plant (Symphytum officinale) historically used to treat sprains, bruises, and broken bones. [1, 2]

Key Facts About Bone Knit (Comfrey)

Historical Name: People called it “knitbone” or “boneset” because traditional medicine healers believed it helped heal and mend broken bones. [1, 2]

Active Compounds: It contains allantoin, which helps promote new skin cell growth and cell division, alongside anti-inflammatory properties. [1, 2]

External Use Only: Modern medical advice strongly warns against consuming comfrey. It contains toxic pyrrolizidine alkaloids that can cause severe liver damage if ingested. [1, 2]

Application: Traditional and topical uses involve making an external compress or poultice from the leaves or roots for joint pain, swelling, and sprains. [1, 2]

Esbjorn (esa): Solomon’s seal (Polygonatum species) is a traditional herbal remedy long used in folk medicine to support musculoskeletal recovery, including broken bones and connective tissue injuries. [1]

Traditional Uses for Bone and Joint Health

Fracture Recovery: Herbal folklore and traditional practitioners suggest that the root or rhizome helps speed up the mending of broken bones. [1, 2]

Connective Tissue Support: It is widely valued for soothing sprains, tendonitis, joint inflammation, and cartilage wear by promoting moisture and lubrication in the joints. [1, 2]
Mineral Absorption: Traditional texts hypothesize that it supports bone strength by helping the body utilize essential minerals like calcium and magnesium. [1]

MindShifter: “It is the deepening of my connection to the Breath of God that delivers me home.”

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The conversation expands through Bert Hellinger’s family constellation work, Mark Wolynn’s It Didn’t Start With You, Gordon Neufeld’s attachment and developmental model, and Ryce’s earlier concept of “matrix therapy.” Ryce recalls developing an approach in which a person mentally revisits relationships with mother, father, siblings, and others and imagines receiving from them the Love that was needed for full development. Susan connects this with the idea that developmental problems may reflect missing relational “nutrients” rather than defective children. Both return repeatedly to the premise that Love is the essential nutrient and Breath the carrier wave through which that Love becomes consciously available.

Susan then continues Step 12 of the detailed Power Person Workbook, examining the tendency to insist that a painful perceptual construct is true. Using Duncan as her example, she looks at the recurring belief that he does not accept her and recognizes how childhood experiences linked Love with approval, producing patterns of proving herself, people-pleasing, fawning, and seeking validation. Ryce invites her to imagine being with Duncan while simply breathing, with no internal charge arising in response to his words. This becomes the practical test: whatever still activates within her remains her own material for healing. Susan distinguishes a “special relationship,” where approval is exchanged conditionally, from a relationship in which Love remains constant because Love is understood as the Being itself. The discussion emphasizes agency, sovereignty, responsibility, and using relationships as mirrors that reveal remaining thought disorders rather than as causes of one’s internal experience.

The group then moves into an extended Breath and visualization process. Participants imagine a person who triggers them, breathe into the Sacred Heart, and extend Love while recognizing the other person as a reflection within consciousness. Ryce adds the Native American phrase Mitakuye Oyasin, “all my relations,” inviting excluded ancestors and family members back into belonging. Susan includes miscarried children, adopted children, institutionalized family members, perpetrators, victims, and other excluded members of family systems, framing healing as restoration to connectedness within the whole human family. The show closes with a reading and discussion from A Course in Miracles about extension, wholeness, and the Kingdom, repeatedly replacing “spirit” with Breath. Susan also introduces her own interpretation of “non-playing characters” and holographic reality; Ryce reframes these as projections of the dissociated mind. The final instruction is to remain conscious, active, and present as Love regardless of what appears externally, allowing Rukha d’Qudsha and Breath to expose and dissolve the remaining resistance.

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A major portion of the show clarifies how to locate the active goal beneath painful perception. Ryce suggests asking what the person who has become the object of attention “should” be doing differently. The answer often reveals the goal immediately. The goal, rather than the anger, fear, or other emotion, is what can be canceled. Once the goal is canceled, the perceptual construct it has generated can collapse, exposing the unconscious material beneath it. This is identified as the core mechanism of the Power Person Dynamic and the Aramaic forgiveness process: Shbag/Shbak is understood as canceling the active goal, followed by Breath and willingness so the underlying stored material can be met and transformed. Ryce repeatedly distinguishes this from pardoning another person, which may be appropriate but is a separate act.

The conversation expands through Susan’s reading from A Course in Miracles, discussion of Rakhma, Khooba, Shekhinta, Rukha d’Qudsha, and the difference between perceptual reality and actuality. Breath is described as far more than respiration — the Sacred, set-apart Breath through which the indwelling Presence becomes consciously available. Ryce connects this with Y’Shua breathing with the frightened disciples after the crucifixion rather than giving them a theological lecture. Susan describes using conscious Breath in tense public situations and experiencing a change in the relational field. Ryce frames Shekhinta as the indwelling Presence inherent in Human Life rather than something bestowed from outside, and describes the ongoing choice between living from old egoic conditioning and living from this indwelling Breath Presence.

A participant asks whether witnessing conflict means the same conflict must still exist within oneself. Ryce makes an important distinction: having the “brain cells” to recognize conflict does not mean one is presently conflicted. If an external conflict is observed while one remains centered and clear, it may simply be recognized information. If it produces internal disturbance, that disturbance identifies one’s own available healing work. The discussion then explores discernment between ego-driven intervention and genuine inner guidance. Esbjorn describes witnessing conflict in a Sikh temple and feeling an impulse to speak. Ryce and Susan suggest that the useful question is whether the impulse arises while consciously present in Love and Breath, without an egoic charge. Human participation and divine guidance are therefore framed as cooperation rather than passivity.

The show also contains discussion of “dis-ease” as a condition of disrupted ease rather than, in Ryce’s historical naturopathic framework, an independently attacking entity. Susan refines the language from “throwing out” disintegrative energy to liberating and transforming it through Rukha and Breath. Personal stories of recovery, serious illness, hospice, and healing are shared as participant experiences and should not be interpreted as established medical evidence. The closing emphasis is willingness: Breath, Forgiveness, alignment, inner listening, and repeated practice deepen one’s ability to recognize the still, small voice and respond from conscious, active, present Love rather than Carbon-Based Memory, fear, or projection.

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From Chatroom:

Shawn: Son of Man = barnasha

michael ryce: IMPORTANT GUIDE TO COMFORT AND MOSQUITO PROTECTION IN 2026

Are you a “mosquito magnet?” Science explains! Mosquitoes are guided by — body warmth, breath, and normal skin flora — with some types attracting more attention from insects.

https://youtu.be/hZ6B-SUiXRk?is=uBg182ym3TNdZRYO

Mosquito borne diseases, esp in warm regions like Arizona, due to hot weather and summer rains, are claiming lives. A few practical steps can keep outdoor play fun, comfortable, and healthy!

SIMPLE SOLUTIONS:

GARAGE SECRET! TURN ON AN OUTDOOR FAN: Mosquitoes struggle against even a gentle breeze. Running an ordinary floor or box fan near the patio or porch, keeps them from landing while gently sweeping away the natural scent trails that attract them!

 CHOOSE LIGHT, LOOSE CLOTHING: Mosquitoes are naturally drawn to dark colors and sharp silhouettes. Dressing in loose-fitting, light-colored long sleeves and pants makes us harder for insects to spot while adding a comfortable physical barrier.

You can also see this post on facebook.com/JeanieShaw

Jackie: I ’m confused, did you previously say that there is no such thing as disease? If the answer is no, I have another question.

Jeanie: dis-ease

Jackie: I have learned never to accept the disease, don’t give it power. Yes, a messenger.

Shawn: ACIM seems to indicate this same Separation. That’s why our perception must be clean that we can view not as punishment but something to learn/only located in the body

Jackie: The old adage…perception is reality.

Shawn As long as not paralysis by analysis.

michael ryce: Perception can never tell the truth about Actuality! All perception is but a reflection of the past. There is no future in the past. Only death.

Jackie: I understand perception is not eternal truth.

Jeanie: Perception is our personal reality (the world between our ears) and actuality is what is real in the World the Creator created

Jackie: Then it takes you years to peel back the layers that don’t belong.

Jeanie: A poster of the filters of the mind https://whyagain.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Getting_the_Stress_You_Need_diagram_of_filters_rev2017.pdf

Jeanie: We are working on our generations as well

Jackie: Replying to “perception is our personal reality (the world between our ears) and actuality is what is real in the World the Creator created” Yes, that’s my understanding, Thank You for sharing this.

Jackie: I understand. Maybe I should have said, prior to reaching here, it has taken years to get here.

Shawn: “It does not take years to heal. It takes years to learn willingness.” Our will IS His Will. It takes time to arriving at no-time to see this.

Susan Bingham: Love your answer to Esbjorn, Michael. Whew. He had a good question.

Jackie: For me, I have been actively working since I was 15 years old. So maybe I don’t understand willingness and what that means to you, because I was/am actively working. Now maybe I didn’t always have the right tools, but I have always been willing.

Shawn: For me, I have been actively working since I was 15 years old. So maybe I don’t understand willingness and what that means to you, because I was/am actively working. Now maybe I didn’t always have the right tools, but I have always been willing. I currently view this as a sort of Left-brain ego understanding moving into the Right Brain (kingdom) promised land… as we heal

Susan Bingham: Yay Esbjorn.

Jackie: I currently view this as a sort of Left-brain ego understanding moving into the Right Brain (kingdom) promised land… as we heal” with Love

Shawn: George Lamsa might say “Son of Man” is not a title but a way of identifying the human expression through which divine purpose operates… So, Barnasha represents the human system restored to proper operation. The problem of humanity is not lack of divine presence. It’s the interference created by false goals, fear-based perception and emotional corruption. The mind, body and intention MUST become aligned. Where the lower mind heals to the point of Restored Coherence. Barnasha reveals the human expression restored to its original coherence. The Son of Man is the awakened pattern of humanity where consciousness is no longer governed by fragmentation, fear and separation but operates from alignment with the living intelligence that created it. The mirror is for looking at yourself looking at yourself. For me, it has a cozy comfort to it.

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Andrea shares how a new relationship has become an intensive laboratory for Forgiveness. Rather than remaining trapped in blame or freezing, she describes feeling, facing, and witnessing what is activated within her, then entering vulnerable communication with her partner. She increasingly recognizes him as a reflection revealing her own unresolved material. Ryce affirms that relationships continually provide opportunities to expose and heal what remains unconscious. The conversation emphasizes accountability, willingness to recognize subtle blame, receiving support, and allowing imperfection while continuing the work.

The discussion then turns to healing, diagnosis, neurodivergence, and autism. Cammie asks whether autism should necessarily be viewed as a disorder, and Ryce suggests that some forms may represent differently enabled or neurodivergent minds rather than pathology. Participants question how diagnostic labels can narrow inquiry and discuss the importance of preserving agency while remaining open to conventional medical support. Susan relates this to her own collarbone injury, describing her effort to release attachment to either surgery or non-surgery and instead remain receptive to guidance. Medical and developmental claims in this portion reflect the participants’ personal and historical frameworks and should not be interpreted as established medical conclusions.

Jackie asks how Y’Shua might have responded to masking and medical workers during COVID. The discussion distinguishes honoring others from being governed by fear. Susan emphasizes meeting people where they are, listening until the nervous system can settle, maintaining respect without having to agree, and using Breath when another person’s fear or behavior activates one’s own material. The conversation then returns to perception: Susan describes recognizing how childhood fear had shaped her perception of men and how she committed to seeing them more clearly rather than through old projections. Ryce’s evaluation process is discussed as a way of examining how well a person honors self, others, and Truth and identifying areas where further work may be useful.

Ryce also recounts his lifelong history of respiratory problems and his personal experience of improvement after working deeply during a COVID illness. He interprets illness within his own framework as a messenger exposing material for healing and makes several claims about organisms and disease that represent his personal naturopathic interpretation rather than established medical science. The show closes with a guided Breath process centered on Rukha d’Qudsha, described as the set-apart Breath carrying healing, wholeness, and intelligence. Forgiveness is again framed as the undoing of physiological and perceptual knots through Breath, willingness, and the release of resistance, restoring greater access to Human Life and the indwelling Presence.

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The discussion then clarifies three levels of Breath: ordinary respiration, incoherent Breath taken in hostility or fear, and consciously engaged Rukha d’Qudsha, the set-apart Breath connected with Love. Susan links this with her own StillPoint experience and describes Breath as the bridge between conscious and unconscious material, allowing distorted energies to become available for healing. The Power Person Dynamic is then reviewed for Lawrence: a more powerful person approaches a child from hostility or fear, the child experiences survival threat, and the resulting pattern becomes stored and later reactivated under stress. Low stress evokes behaviors used to get along with the Power Person, medium stress evokes survival responses, and high stress can lead a person to reproduce the very behavior they once hated. The Detailed Power Person Workbook is presented as a way of making these unconscious patterns visible.

Lawrence connects this teaching with childhood punishment, insecurity, shame, guilt, and later religious systems that seemed to repeat the same themes. The group interprets this through generational Carbon-Based Memory, projection, and repeated perceptual structures. Ryce emphasizes that Satan, in this Aramaic framework, means resistance rather than a supernatural being, and that the “desert” can symbolize the unconscious generational field that must be brought into awareness and forgiven. The journey is described as returning to the Love that was present from the first Breath of Life while removing blockages that obscure Truth. Susan adds that childhood experience can establish a persona organized around survival rather than authentic Being, which then shapes what one expects and perceives in later relationships, institutions, and religion.

The show then returns to Steps 13 and 14 of the Detailed Power Person Workbook. Step 13 asks what a behavior is attempting to communicate and what goal lies beneath it. Susan examines raising her voice, talking over others, cutting and running, and dissociation. Beneath these behaviors she identifies goals involving control, being heard, inclusion, safety, and escape from overwhelming feeling. She recognizes that these strategies echo behaviors modeled by her parents and that what once functioned as childhood survival patterns later became adult relationship patterns. Step 14 examines how a current event echoes the original Power Person experience and invites the person to identify the emotion and thought being resonated. Susan recognizes that her effort to control others replicated the very control she experienced as a child, while dissociation repeated the emotional absence she experienced with her mother.

The closing discussion returns to the body as a learning and communication device of mind, Sacred Breath as the means by which minds reconnect with the One Mind, and relationship as a field through which unresolved separation can become conscious. Susan connects her childhood dissociation with later hyper-independence, distraction, busyness, and difficulty receiving connection, while seeing her recent physical injury as another opportunity to examine what is ready for healing. Throughout the broadcast, participant statements about physiology, ancestral energy, diagnosis, and healing reflect the show’s experiential and spiritual framework rather than established medical or scientific conclusions. The central message is that Breath, willingness, responsibility, and the Power Person work can expose survival strategies that once protected the child and transform them into greater Presence, connection, and conscious active Love.

From chatroom:

michael ryce: “SuperWorkSheet!” https://whyagain.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Power-Person-Pseudo-Solution-Worksheet-05032025.pdf

Jeanie: And our Reality Management Wake-up Sheet (forgiveness process) https://whyagain.org/WakeUpSheet/

Jeanie: https://whyagain.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Personal_Code_Evaluation_Challenge_Sheet_2020_rev.pdf    (PDF format) – assignments given in ten areas assessed by the PC Evaluation (this evaluation is taken in most intensive programs, email jeanie@whyagain.org if interested in purchasing additional evaluations)

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Ryce develops the Carbon-Based Memory model through the symbolism of carbon’s six electrons, six protons, and six neutrons, linking this historical teaching with “666.” He describes Carbon-Based Memory as a physiological storage system containing past experiences and generational material that is resonated into activity by similar present circumstances. He then returns to first-century Aramaic Forgiveness, emphasizing that Y’Shua’s teaching was not to “forgive another” in the Greek sense of pardoning, but to forgive “as to” the person or circumstance that has triggered pain. The work is therefore directed inward toward the energetic knot that has been activated. Ryce also describes the HeartLand Aramaic Forgiveness app and its private worksheet process as practical support for applying the teaching.

Susan then explains the Reality Management Worksheet as a mind-training process. A person begins with the emotion, identifies the object of attention and the material facts, notices the thought, and then identifies the active goal beneath the upset. Ryce emphasizes that people generally become upset when someone violates a goal they hold for that person. The goal then recruits stored hostility, fear, and prior experience into the present perceptual construct. Canceling that goal creates access to the underlying material, while Breath is maintained throughout the process. Susan describes Rukha d’Qudsha as opening the gateway between conscious and unconscious material so that stored perceptions, memories, emotional energy, and bodily tension can surface and be transformed.

The discussion returns to the Power Person Dynamic and to Ryce’s definition of “processing”: maintaining Love conscious, active, and present when something less than Love is resonated. He describes the common reaction to fear or trauma as holding the breath, which in his framework interrupts access to the very force that supports healing. Rukha d’Qudsha is again distinguished from the later Greek pneuma and Latin spiritus interpretations and described as the Breath of Life that undoes the effects of error and reveals Truth. Ryce connects this with Y’Shua appearing to the frightened disciples after the crucifixion, speaking Shlama — wholeness — and breathing with them rather than teaching theology. The group then practices several conscious breaths together.

The final portion gives a detailed example of how the Power Person Dynamic operates across decades. A frightened child may form goals such as “I must be safe” or “I must be approved of.” Thirty years later, a spouse or coworker raises their voice, and that apparently reasonable goal recruits the entire stored file of childhood terror, rejection, helplessness, and unmet protection. The person then reacts to the present through the past. Ryce identifies the Aramaic Shbag/Shbak as “cancel,” explaining that even a seemingly constructive goal may be canceled when it is functioning as the driver of a painful perceptual construct. When the goal is canceled, the construct collapses “into its own footprint,” exposing the unconscious material beneath it. With conscious Breath present, that material can then be processed rather than projected outward. Medical, physiological, and scientific claims in this discussion reflect the show’s historical teaching framework rather than established medical or scientific conclusions.

From Chatroom:

michael ryce: My Commitment

I promise to TRUST you enough to tell you the Truth, to be true to you, and always engage in just and fair behavior with you. I commit to always be sweetness in your life, to nurture you daily, and treat you LOVINGLY, Gently, and with Respect in my thoughts, words, and actions, whether in your presence or not.

In every interaction, I commit to affection for you, to look for and acknowledge the highest and best in you and, as I surrender to LOVE, our True Nature, I will use only voice tones and language that reflect my deep caring for you.

My connection to Love, our Source, gratitude for my relationship with you, and our Serenity will always be more important than any issue. I open my Being to embrace you in my Love; I open my Being to be embraced in your Love.

If anything I have committed to here sounds hollow, or anything unlike LOVE comes up in me, I will Breathe, hold us in my Heart, and listen as I learn to give up any denial, welcome the revelation of Truth, and learn to speak, experience, be RESPONSE-ABLE for, and Forgive my own realities. I am here for and with you. I promise to speak only Truth to you as I keep communication open and keep LOVE Conscious, Active, and Present AS WE HEAL, CELEBRATE LIFE, and GROW TOGETHER.

Jeanie: https://whyagain.org/wakeupsheet/

michael ryce: An example of the complexities of the mind of man… Hilarious! https://youtu.be/OXvskX4oZMA?is=ZZY7fvPqeeqXNleO

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Lawrence reflects on his own healing journey and his desire to bring the work into his community. Susan emphasizes that Forgiveness is a lifelong practice rather than pardoning someone else. The work is to clean the mind, cancel the goals that drive painful perceptual structures, and transform the inner material that shapes outer experience. Step 14 of the Power Person Workbook is then revisited: a present emotional reaction is understood as an echo of an earlier Power Person event. Susan examines shaming, sarcasm, dissociation, and cutting-and-running as learned survival behaviors, recognizing that when she felt attacked or unheard she often used shaming or withdrawal as pseudo-solutions for safety. She also describes returning later for a “redo,” consciously revisiting an interaction from a clearer state and choosing a different response.

Ryce adds a strong clarification about sarcasm, describing it as a socially acceptable way of expressing otherwise unexpressed rage. This leads into discussion of shame and guilt: guilt is framed as believing one has done something bad, while shame is believing one is bad. Susan recognizes that the messages she received as a child later became an internalized Power Person voice, criticizing and attacking her from within. The group connects these dynamics with family systems, churches, media, and relationships, showing how shaming, ridicule, and sarcasm can become normalized patterns while continuing to carry hostility.

A major portion of the show explores Rakhma and Breath. Ryce explains that Love is not something one does but what one is, and that Rakhma functions as the condition or gateway through which Human Life enters the human form. He describes three levels of Breath: ordinary respiration, incoherent Breath associated with hostility or fear, and the Rakhma Breath consciously taken in Love. Holding a newborn is offered as a direct experiential reference for this original state of Human Life — the presence of Love before accumulated fear, trauma, and generational conditioning. Ryce encourages Lawrence to recall holding his daughter and to use that experience as a reference point for his own essential nature.

The program also develops the relationship between stress, trauma, and the nervous system. Susan describes high stress as reactivating Power Person patterns and discusses fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and a possible fifth response referred to as flop (collapse). She distinguishes emotion from feeling, while Ryce connects emotion with thought-generated physiology and references Candace Pert’s work on neuropeptides. These physiological explanations are presented as part of the show’s teaching framework and should not be treated as settled scientific or medical conclusions. Susan closes by describing “present joining” — being fully aware of body, senses, mind, emotion, and Breath in the present moment rather than living from past or future fear. From that state, she experiences greater serenity and connection with Rukha d’Qudsha. The show ends by recommending Another Self as a depiction of family-system and generational material being resonated for healing.

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The conversation extends into Scripture and the Book of Job. Ryce interprets Job’s statement, “that which I feared most has come upon me,” as recognition that fear was already operative within his own mind. He sees Job’s eventual restoration as occurring when Job moves out of hostility toward his friends and returns to a state aligned with Rakhma. The group also discusses listening for guidance through Rukha, the Breath of revelation and Truth, with Ryce emphasizing that outside teachers may point toward Truth, but the ultimate teacher is the indwelling Breath rather than an external authority. Several historical claims are also made about Aramaic, Sanskrit, the Qur’an, and world religions; these are preserved as the participants’ discussion and are not independently verified here.

A substantial portion of the show centers on Mitzi’s frustration with her husband Rex’s snoring and her question about whether anger or rage always covers another emotion. Ryce says anger functions as an anesthetic and redirects attention away from solving the external situation toward discovering what is happening internally. He explains denial as believing something outside oneself is the cause of an internal state. The key, he says, is identifying the goal driving the painful perceptual construct. In Mitzi’s case, the conversation moves from “I need to sleep” toward a more precise goal involving Rex prioritizing their mutual comfort and participating in finding a workable solution. The practical external issue still deserves communication and professional assessment, while the inner work concerns the goal and the anger resonated around it.

Shawn then asks whether canceling a goal simply means seeing the circumstance differently. Ryce clarifies with the metaphor of a football recruiter: a goal recruits matching information from Carbon-Based Memory through resonance. Change the goal and a different set of stored information is recruited; cancel the active goal and the recruiter disappears, allowing the perceptual construct to collapse “into its own footprint,” exposing the unconscious material beneath it. Ryce emphasizes that even apparently reasonable goals can recruit inherited or unresolved material, and that unfulfilled goals may persist across generations until they are achieved or canceled. Breath then becomes essential for accessing and resolving what surfaces.

Susan adds the distinction between frustration and futility, describing frustration as confronting something one cannot control, obtain, or change, and futility as the process of emotionally adapting to that reality. She encourages honoring both the practical level and the deeper inner process. The group closes by breathing together into the back of the heart while remembering Ryce’s central statement that Love is a noun — the truth of what we are. Medical, physiological, sleep, nervous-system, and scientific claims throughout the show reflect the participants’ teaching framework and personal experience and should not be treated as established medical conclusions.

From chatroom:

michael ryce: Here is EXACTLY how Blockage of Truth operates. The main cry of the mind in Blockage of Truth is, “don’t make me look!”

Here is a graphic example that takes 10 minutes to watch… https://youtu.be/wd6nmoh0Sbs?is=Gk2Sd-pIpZQLZ-h9

Out of control… https://youtu.be/RZhOh4z37gQ?is=T0lwgjI3ptCB4AC7   

And then healing… https://youtu.be/dOQkmdTICwo?is=753oRA3rSxUfEj7N

The whole film, “It’s A Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood … https://youtu.be/vde13AHt47c?is=PhsX-LCYAX3d-EsJ

Shawn: Subcortical functions push up emotion “chemical” electric activity and the New Covering (neocortex) shows us a video/image of it. And My take is what is running the OS at the time will show us a particular version. that’s why repentance is vital = a change in perception

michael ryce: pillow suggestion Threshold Standard/Queen Medium Microgel Down Alternative $20 at Target

Shawn: otherwise it leads to repeat injury/sprain. likewise, my wife had a process and she no more complains!

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Susan then shares a difficult response to seeing a new X-ray of her fractured clavicle. Seeing that the break was still visible triggered despair, futility, and a familiar tendency to fill in the blanks with negative meaning. She recognizes patterns of wanting to control outcomes, other people’s agency, and even the pace of healing. Ryce invites her to go deeper with Breath and to cancel goals such as needing to be all-powerful, needing to manage others’ sovereignty, and needing to lead her own experience rather than allowing God to lead. The discussion contrasts egoic grandiosity with resting in the grandeur of God and emphasizes willingness to remain present whether the eventual medical outcome includes continued natural healing or surgical intervention.

A major theme is the distinction Susan makes between spirit, soul or psyche, and egoic perception. She describes becoming aware of what she calls a “restricted mind-energy body,” an overlay of constricted, non-being energy associated with unresolved fear and hostility. Rather than attaching stories to every sensation, she practices staying with Rukha d’Qudsha and allowing the energy to move without meaning-making. Ryce repeatedly brings the process back to Forgiveness whenever egoic perception conflicts with what is recognized as Truth. These descriptions of subtle energy, physiology, past lives, and bodily healing reflect the participants’ experiential framework rather than independently established medical or scientific findings.

Susan also describes recognizing a long-standing pattern of trying to manage other people’s sovereignty and agency. In one conversation she notices another person moving into judgment, pauses, returns to Breath, and chooses not to take responsibility for how that person thinks or behaves. This leads her back to the childhood survival pattern of fawning: taking care of others in the hope that they will then take care of her. She connects over-responsibility, people-pleasing, and attempts to control others with earlier experiences of having to manage a distressed parent. The distinction becomes clearer: she has power and agency over her own behavior, while another person retains sovereignty over theirs.

The Power Person Workbook continues with Steps 15 and 16. Susan identifies overwhelm and the thought “this is too much” as an old pattern connected with sympathetic dominance and survival responses such as fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and “flop” or collapse. Step 16 asks how Power Person behaviors function through control, avoidance, projection, or deflection. The group discusses how repeated survival responses become automatic until conscious awareness and new action create another pathway. Carrie connects this with A Course in Miracles, emphasizing that forgiveness requires changes in perception and the relinquishment of judgment rather than simply changing external circumstances.

The show closes with Susan interpreting dreams of a resting cat and an unhurried dog as lessons in letting go of control, trusting timing, and allowing action to emerge rather than forcing it. She links this with a growing balance between her inner masculine — grounded, discerning, and action-oriented — and inner feminine — intuitive and receptive. The group ends by breathing together for Jackie, who is in the hospital, extending Rakhma Breath and holding the intention that her caregivers be fully attuned to the support she needs.

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Ryce then corrects an important historical point from the previous day’s discussion about A Course in Miracles. He gives Daniel MacDougald Jr. explicit credit for bringing forward the understanding from first-century Aramaic that Shbag/Shbak means to cancel a goal and that Forgiveness is an internal process rather than pardoning another person. Ryce describes their 15–16 years of partnership developing Laws of Living and the worksheet process, MacDougald’s work with the Yonan and Khabouris Codices, and their long hours debating the precise meaning of words. Ryce says he later recognized a parallel statement in A Course in Miracles — letting go of what one thinks one wants — but emphasizes that the practical Forgiveness process came through MacDougald’s Aramaic work.

Susan continues Step 16 of the Power Person Workbook, examining control, avoidance, projection, and deflection. She recognizes that much of her effort to control other people’s sovereignty and agency came from wanting safety and from an old belief that the world, other people, or she herself had to be different. The realization shifts from “if only the world would change” to “what in me is being called to change?” She connects this with allowing herself and others their own agency rather than trying to force acceptance, agreement, or awakening. Ryce adds that denial begins with the slightest belief that something outside oneself is causing what is happening internally; this instruction to the mind then produces projection. Locating the specific goal held for the other person becomes the way back into one’s own unconscious material.

This becomes personal as Susan examines rage toward Duncan and discovers a deeper goal beneath it: “I want you to listen and accept me.” With Ryce guiding her to stay with the physiological response, she traces the longing further back to wanting to be known, received, and delighted in by her mother. Ryce turns the focus inward by suggesting that the delight she seeks from others is also her own self-delight, self-acceptance, and self-embrace waiting to be restored. The group breathes with her as she notices a strong physical constriction around the shoulder and clavicle area while recognizing the longstanding pattern of looking outside herself for acceptance.

The show also explores Breath more deeply. Ryce introduces the Aramaic expression Rukha d’Alaha, “Breath of God,” alongside Rukha d’Qudsha, and describes multiple qualities of Breath associated with states such as wisdom, revelation, Love, hostility, fear, jealousy, or condemnation. His developing conclusion is that people can become increasingly conscious of which “breath quality” they are embodying and deliberately align physiology with the Breath qualities of the Creator. The discussion also compares this energy with Kundalini, Reiki, meditation, and other traditions, while Ryce emphasizes that increased energy flow may appear anywhere in physiology as resistance is released. These energetic and physiological interpretations reflect the experiential teaching framework of the show rather than established scientific conclusions.

The broadcast closes by returning to sympathetic dominance and the survival responses of fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and “flop” or collapse. The participants acknowledge that their understanding of the “flop” response still needs clarification and further research, rather than treating the current description as final. The central thread throughout the show is that present triggers, grief, anger, control, and bodily constriction can become doorways into unconscious material when the active goal is identified, canceled, and met with conscious Breath, allowing greater self-acceptance, freedom, and conscious active present Love.

From chatroom:

Jeanie: “Open the curtain in your practicing by merely letting go all things you think you want. ²Your trifling treasures put away, and leave a clean and open space within your mind where Christ can come, and offer you the treasure of salvation. ³He has need of your most holy mind to save the world. ⁴Is not this purpose worthy to be yours? ⁵Is not Christ’s vision worthy to be sought above the world’s unsatisfying goals?” (ACIM, W-164.8:1-5)

Esbjorn BC, Canada: What is the difference between Freeze and Flop?

michael ryce: Here is a link to 23-minute training I did for Medical Professionals at AVACEN Medical, which has a device that helps restore proper circulation for those with chronic Sympathetic Dominance, a fear/hostility and/or stress based fracture of the Autonomic Nervous System. https://whyagain.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/DrRyceAVACENandParasympatheticActivation.mp3

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A major theme is willingness versus resistance in healing. Susan speaks about old shoulder injuries, her recent clavicle fracture, tuning-fork sessions, and what she experiences as stored energetic material surfacing for release. Ryce adds an important qualification to the idea that something “has to go out the way it went in.” He cautions against turning that into permission for healing to be equally traumatic, emphasizing instead that willingness, responsibility, alignment, and Rukha d’Qudsha can soften and transform the process. Susan describes learning to become a witness to sensations, emotions, and thoughts rather than trying to fix, suppress, or make them disappear. The body becomes a field in which she practices simply staying present with Breath while allowing what is ready to move to move.

The discussion then turns to the nature of time, consciousness, and multidimensionality. Susan describes her experiential view that past and future exist within an ever-present field of consciousness rather than along a strictly linear timeline. Sally connects this with the film Everything Everywhere All at Once, while the group contrasts that experience with Another Self, which Susan feels offers a clearer doorway into family-system and generational material. They discuss using films, dreams, and relationships as mirrors that can resonate unconscious patterns and provide opportunities for greater awareness. These metaphysical interpretations are presented as personal and experiential beliefs rather than established scientific conclusions.

Later, Rex and Susan explore language, identity, and the idea of separation between spirit, soul, persona, and body. Rex challenges Susan’s language of being “outside looking in,” asking what exactly is outside and what is inside. This prompts a real-time shift for Susan: rather than viewing spirit and soul as separate from the persona, she begins to see the persona as an image or projection within one larger whole. The exchange becomes an example of how language can reinforce either separation or unity, and how another person’s inquiry can expose a blockage to Truth without attack or blame.

The show also deepens the discussion of what Susan has been calling the “pain body.” Ryce cautions that naming it that way may add another layer of interpretation and suggests simpler language such as sensation body or restricted mind-energy body. Rex brings the conversation back to the Present, emphasizing that trying to discover the “why” can itself become another way of figuring things out, while the actual work is to notice what is present now, meet any resistance or judgment with Breath, and remain fully embodied. The group then breathes together, holding sensations, emotions, and constriction in conscious Presence. Susan closes by acknowledging her own automatic pattern of interrupting or rushing to be heard and expresses willingness to keep bringing that pattern into awareness.

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The conversation develops into a discussion of Susan’s physical healing and her realization that she has spent much of her life wanting to be somewhere else, be someone different, or have another reality. She describes moving instead toward accepting her life, body, personality, light, and shadow as they are. Ryce connects this with his current study of John 7:37–39, where he interprets the “living waters” as Rukha flowing from the physiological center of Being. This becomes a key image for the show: the source is within, not outside. Susan describes the masculine as the banks that hold the river and the feminine as the flowing water, with the Sacred Heart as the point of inner balance.

Cami then recognizes her own lifelong tendency to live in fantasy — imagining another country, relationship, home, or future rather than fully inhabiting the Present. Susan reframes this not as a character defect but as an old survival strategy, a form of dissociation that may have developed when the present moment once felt too overwhelming to bear. Rather than attacking that pattern, the invitation is to accept it, sit beside it, breathe with it, and welcome that part of the self home. The discussion repeatedly returns to the idea that Forgiveness is not about forcing oneself to change but bringing whatever arises into conscious Breath Presence so that fear, hostility, resistance, and old survival programs can be transformed.

Ryce returns to John 7 and the image of living water arising from within the gut, belly, or center of Being. Cami recognizes that even her belief that overwhelming emotions are too large to handle is itself resistance, particularly when Rukha is imagined as something outside rather than the Breath already within. Ryce recalls an earlier worksheet question: what am I willing to sacrifice my connection to Source in order to obtain? If the goal is peace, approval, safety, or another external outcome, the deeper recognition is that the desired state is already internally available. He further clarifies that the Aramaic concept is better rendered as serenity than “peace,” recalling Daniel MacDougald’s repeated observation that “peace” is historically a war word.

Susan also recognizes a major shift in her understanding of Love. Rather than “loving” another person as though Love travels outward from her toward them, she describes another person’s presence as giving her the opportunity to experience the Love she already is. The other becomes a mirror through which her own capacity for Love, delight, appreciation, and Presence becomes visible. She applies this to ordinary encounters, relationships, family, and even customer-service conversations, noticing how simple appreciation can change the relational field. She simultaneously maintains clear personal boundaries, distinguishing conscious Love from the belief that every relationship must become romantic or sexual.

The show closes with reflections on Daniel MacDougald, his decision to leave a successful legal career to apply Laws of Living principles within prison systems, and his commitment to bringing healing into difficult environments. Ryce describes MacDougald’s work as part of the historical foundation of their teachings. Susan closes by describing the MindShifters community as a sanctuary where conscious, active, present Love supports each person’s ongoing healing. Metaphysical, energetic, past-life, physiological, and medical interpretations throughout the show reflect the participants’ personal and teaching frameworks rather than independently established scientific conclusions.

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